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Jaybo's avatar

Somebody said correctly that a our constitution would only work for a Christian, religious people. We are not that anymore. The republic was based on trust based on conscience. That does not exist in this america. You are a fool to play by rules when your enemy does not.

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Michael Smith's avatar

The first was from John Adams - in October of 1789 he wrote: "Because We have no Government armed with Power capable of contending with human Passions unbridled by morality and Religion. Avarice, Ambition and Revenge or Galantry, would break the strongest Cords of our Constitution as a Whale goes through a Net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

You last sentence was a sentiment shared by George Patton to his soldiers.

But both are spot on.

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KW NORTON's avatar

Our not so rag tag revolutionary ancestors. All willing to be hung by the necks as British traitors. "Dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery" Thomas Jefferson

Maintaining freedom requires understanding what it is and why it is important in the first place.

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pyrrhus's avatar

John Adams, amongst others...He was right...

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Jeff Mockensturm's avatar

Great post, but a typo might leave some confused. Dobbs overturned Roe and Casey.

Progressivism has been around a bit longer than 150 years - tracing its founding to the end of monarchies and the rise of republics and the French Revolution. The tension between progressivism and liberalism was present throughout the debates over our constitution, framing the central debate governing what type of government we would have. More: https://jeffmockensturm.substack.com/p/what-it-means-to-be-conservative

As for where we go from here. I don't know, but we seem to be in "full cascade" mode now to ignore the constitution. Democrats are likely to lose more cases before the Supreme Court and I can foresee the point where they simply ignore the Court, just as they've ignored their Oath in administering the government. Push has come to shove.

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Michael Smith's avatar

It should have said "...the defeat of Roe via Dobbs".

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chad's avatar

Absolutely we should make secession a real plank in the platform. Lincoln was wrong in forcing the slave states to remain in the Union - not that slavery was ok, but by forcing the states to remain, Lincoln violated their tenth amendment right to leave. Even Jefferson, in penning the Declaration, stated that, when government fails to serve the purpose for which it was instituted, it is the right of the people to dissolve or replace it.

It would, hopefully, be the least violent option currently available to ending the federal tyranny to which we are all being subjected.

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Emmanuel Goldstein's avatar

I suspect that if an Article V convention was actually convened 1) it would be hijacked by the Progressive Leftists, 2) the results would be ignored by both the Left and the Right, and 3) sessession and perhaps a Second War for Independence/War Between the States would ensue.

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AZRifleShooter's avatar

We should have made them fight a Civil War to steal an election.

That we didn't is proof that the Republic can't be saved.

It might be restored someday but not without blood.

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Charles Clemens's avatar

Great post, Michael.

2 things:

(1) I am confused by the brou-ha-ha concerning a statement by President Trump. I no longer watch television and I don't have Facebook. Could you send me your post(s) about the controversy? Thanks. (charlesclemens2017@gmail.com.)

(2) You indicated that two great men opposed the Alien/Sedition act. You specified Jefferson, but didn't quite name John Adams. I'm assuming you were referring to him. Was I correct?

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Michael Smith's avatar

It was Jefferson and Madison.

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