This conversation summarizes the reason why supposed “liberals” (actually utterly illiberal people) want to suffocate free speech and exchange of ideas: because they cannot win in the realm of logic, reason and informed civil discussion. Rather they want to exercise power without any debate or opposition.
You have far more patience than I. I think Rush was right: We cannot argue logically with liberals and get them to change their mind nor to think rationally. They must merely be defeated.
This conversation, Michael, reinforces why I live in a rural community with few neighbors and even fewer who are AWFLs. I moved for a variety of reasons, one being able to avoid having to deal with folks willingly blind and deaf to facts.
The sad part is she will not change her mind, perhaps thinks she won the argument and simply blocks you to keep your evil logic out of her life. But I'd be the first to admit, loosing all these "friends" on FB has made a positive impact on my feed. I just wish there was a better way to get them to listen and understand.
I thought you had both logic and sound reasoning, and again from the left - nothing but you are bad, you hate, white man bad, yellow man bad...blah, blah, blah.
And when you pushed and showed that she was indeed wrong - 'well I think this conversation is done'.
They can't see beyond the leftist propaganda blinders that have been put onto them. What next a yoke too?
It was face to face. I can't disclose her identity because I didn't ask for her permission and she has blocked me on Facebook and X now, but it happened. I have the recording on my phone.
She is not a "friend" per se, but she is in the orbit of several friends with whom I went through my MBA program, so we are acquainted. This group still has lunch together every so often.
Every time they come back with some variation of "agree to disagree" or "this conversation is over" you know they've lost, they know they've lost, and they know you know they've lost.
A final great retort to a person set in her perception. Somewhere in her psyche lies the desire to "aid the perceived underdog" --no matter what it takes. Is she Gay herself and sees Trans as a "close relative"? Lesbians are generally Leftists. Few exceptions like Tammy Bruce and a few I know on FB as friends.
To be "Trans" is an emotional decision indeed. The result is what you think you aspire to be--not necessarily a true male or female--but psychologically aspirational.
I think the Left uses them politically so that they seem more "moral". Conservatists who are often religious--see it as amoral--or certainly as I do --as unrealistic about nature herself.
I prefer to not instill a religious argument into anything that's been used politically. I think Republicans would do well to ignore the issue as "an issue". It's best to not mock them as I see often on "X"--it's a mental problem--and a sad one.
I often isolate/copy conversations these days"conversations" on my own FB page.
This conversation summarizes the reason why supposed “liberals” (actually utterly illiberal people) want to suffocate free speech and exchange of ideas: because they cannot win in the realm of logic, reason and informed civil discussion. Rather they want to exercise power without any debate or opposition.
Excellent! You made very valid points, she made accusations.
That’s how liberals argue- by throwing baseless accusations. Argument non sequitur.
You have far more patience than I. I think Rush was right: We cannot argue logically with liberals and get them to change their mind nor to think rationally. They must merely be defeated.
This conversation, Michael, reinforces why I live in a rural community with few neighbors and even fewer who are AWFLs. I moved for a variety of reasons, one being able to avoid having to deal with folks willingly blind and deaf to facts.
Same. Fewer people per square mile, but most of them are conservative religious folks…
The sad part is she will not change her mind, perhaps thinks she won the argument and simply blocks you to keep your evil logic out of her life. But I'd be the first to admit, loosing all these "friends" on FB has made a positive impact on my feed. I just wish there was a better way to get them to listen and understand.
Did she then slam the phone down in disgust?
I thought you had both logic and sound reasoning, and again from the left - nothing but you are bad, you hate, white man bad, yellow man bad...blah, blah, blah.
And when you pushed and showed that she was indeed wrong - 'well I think this conversation is done'.
They can't see beyond the leftist propaganda blinders that have been put onto them. What next a yoke too?
It was face to face. I can't disclose her identity because I didn't ask for her permission and she has blocked me on Facebook and X now, but it happened. I have the recording on my phone.
She is not a "friend" per se, but she is in the orbit of several friends with whom I went through my MBA program, so we are acquainted. This group still has lunch together every so often.
Every time they come back with some variation of "agree to disagree" or "this conversation is over" you know they've lost, they know they've lost, and they know you know they've lost.
A final great retort to a person set in her perception. Somewhere in her psyche lies the desire to "aid the perceived underdog" --no matter what it takes. Is she Gay herself and sees Trans as a "close relative"? Lesbians are generally Leftists. Few exceptions like Tammy Bruce and a few I know on FB as friends.
To be "Trans" is an emotional decision indeed. The result is what you think you aspire to be--not necessarily a true male or female--but psychologically aspirational.
I think the Left uses them politically so that they seem more "moral". Conservatists who are often religious--see it as amoral--or certainly as I do --as unrealistic about nature herself.
I prefer to not instill a religious argument into anything that's been used politically. I think Republicans would do well to ignore the issue as "an issue". It's best to not mock them as I see often on "X"--it's a mental problem--and a sad one.
I often isolate/copy conversations these days"conversations" on my own FB page.
Very good article and very insightful.
Well played.
Logically sound & exquisitely articulated. I’m enormously impressed that you were able to do so extemporaneously. Well done.