Was going back and forth with a leftie Facebook acquaintance last week who had big love for the Colorado ruling to keep Trump off the state's ballots and it was constitutional, so I did this:
Me: Give me your wife's phone number.
Him: Why?
Me: I'm going to call her and tell her I saw you drinking at a couple of strip clubs when you told your her you were working.
Him: I didn't do that, but even if I did, it's not illegal.
Me: Not an issue, let's call your wife and see what she thinks.
Him: I'm not going to let you do that. She will get mad and try to punish me for something I didn't do.
Me: Doesn't matter, I'm going to tell her anyway and you will just have to prove to her you didn't go. I might just post that you did it and send her a public message on Facebook.
Him: I can't do that. I work at home, I can't prove I didn't do something I didn't do!
Me: Well, that is the basis for the Colorado ruling. Trump was accused of something he didn't do, can't prove it because he didn't do it, what he did do was not illegal, didn't get a chance to defend himself, and yet he is being punished for it.
Him: That's not right. He violated the 14th Amendment.
Me: Was he charged for insurrection? Was he given the opportunity to defend himself at a trial? Did he go in front of a jury of his peers? Or did the judges in the various courts just decide he committed a crime on their own, based on the information provided by a biased committee that didn't even allow him a defense?
Him: Well, I believe he committed a crime and so do the half of America who back the Colorado ruling.
Me: So, you are telling me that we now ignore the due process and equal treatment and guaranteed adversarial process our Constitution requires and substitute a popularity contest? That just proves direct democracy is dangerous when decisions are based on opinions and emotion rather than evidence and reason.
I need to point out that in the past 5 minutes, you didn't like it when I said I was going to report something you didn't do to your wife just to put you in a bind. Even I know going to a strip club isn't illegal, it's going to take a while to get out if it and you will likely have to give something up to smooth it over.
How do you reconcile the two situations?
Him: I don't need to, they are not the same.
Me: Well, the two situations are exactly the same, and both are wrong. Just like the Colorado action, I went to a court with the power to hurt you, accused you without allowing you to defend yourself, and used your wife's bias to punish you without evidence.
Him: Well, the situation you described about me didn't happen.
Me. Give me your wife's phone number and let's try out your theory the two things are different. This is something we can prove right now.
Him: No.
I guess he really does think they are the same situations.
The illogical must always give way to logic, which is why people who reason from emotion will *always* refuse a logical test. Great work Michael!
These people are so brain washed that they can't see the logic behind your questioning. And to say that half of America agrees with Colorado is nothing more than talking points of the left. Again, no proof to the statement has ever been proven. I'll bet their sheepishness does not even recognize the wolf at all. Probably to them the wolf does not exist, and if it did - it's a right wing wolf.